tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1999508328036467805.post8894017077264703853..comments2023-10-29T15:32:19.571-04:00Comments on The Rasch Outdoor Chronicles: PeTA: Why I Despise ThemAlbert A Raschhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11431765456546701021noreply@blogger.comBlogger55125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1999508328036467805.post-29222815990655091872011-03-21T18:06:53.105-04:002011-03-21T18:06:53.105-04:00Veganism is a delusion. It requires denying ones o...Veganism is a delusion. It requires denying ones own nature and it requires pretending that omnivores can become herbivores. You can also pretend to be a unicorn but you ain't no damn unicorn, and you ain't no herbivore no matter how few animal products you consume.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1999508328036467805.post-73231864669194248332011-03-20T12:20:50.673-04:002011-03-20T12:20:50.673-04:00PeTA should face the facts the outside world isnt ...PeTA should face the facts the outside world isnt no picnic and unlike what was seen in BAMBI a OWL is a predator that would soon eat a bunny or skunk and unlike what was shown in that rediclous french movie THE BEAR male bears would kill a cub not adopt it and perhaps maybe if some of those wacky wackos should be marooned in the wilderness with the real wild animals would see that as a apitizerWildbirdnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1999508328036467805.post-65170742319964278122009-10-13T20:26:38.427-04:002009-10-13T20:26:38.427-04:00Bea wrote:
You see, kids are a lot smarter than w...Bea wrote:<br /><br />You see, kids are a lot smarter than what we think. Nothing about "loving this animal" while "killing/eating this animal" makes sense to them. As it shouldn't. Thousands of kids wanted to become vegetarian/vegan after Charlottes Web and Babe... Are you saying those movies were made by "animal rights extremists" too? <br /><br />*****************<br /><br />Bea - where's the facts honey? I watched both of them and you know what? They actually told me the reality of life and that even more importantly, to respect life birth to the grave. It didn't turn me vegetarian.<br /><br />Additionally, you are adding flourishes to both shows in order to make the claim - but don't have proof.<br /><br />People can love animals and yet respect their use as food. Why can't ARs get this through their thick skulls? <br /><br />It sounds to me as though every time it's said that they want to find some thread to act superior to omnivores - yet, they'll hold pets as slaves by keeping them as pets and make them dependent on them for food, shelter and love. <br /><br />(And don't balk here - that's exactly what you do, and in the times of Reconstruction, there is documented evidence that slaves were so loyal and dependant on their masters for things they stayed with them even after they were liberated).<br /><br />*******************<br /><br />Bea wrote:<br /><br />Should they be banned because they might get young people thinking things the culture wishes to keep hidden... like the dirty secret that it is?<br /><br />******************<br /><br />No - as I said they teach these children the reality of things: That animals live and die, such as Charlotte in "Charlotte's Web." And yes, they teach that animals are sometimes killed for food.<br /><br />What I Think is the dirty little secret is AR's obvious manipulation of movies like this to fit their viewpoints and conveniantly using outdated material, twisting things to fit their views, and ignoring direct questions to act as though they're superior.<br /><br />I respect people's diets, what I DON'T respect is people such as you attempting to force your life onto me in order to keep a superiority that you really don't have to begin with.melnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1999508328036467805.post-43167056016977991252009-09-14T09:11:42.786-04:002009-09-14T09:11:42.786-04:00I think the problem with all of these arguments is...I think the problem with all of these arguments is conservation is never brought up, How many peta dollars go to conservation i doubt if any. How many dollars come from preserving wildlife habitats ? i think its funny how we can never get an answer to thisStephen Olnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17124649154639876847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1999508328036467805.post-8833262343817029652009-09-09T21:16:47.857-04:002009-09-09T21:16:47.857-04:00Anonymous,
I think I understand what you are aski...Anonymous,<br /><br />I think I understand what you are asking or saying, but your spelling and grammar make it difficult to be sure. Please double check what you write so that people can answer you carefully and completely.<br /><br />What would I say if someone shot my daughter? Nothing. There would be nothing to say. I would hunt the savages down and kill them, quickly, efficiently, and lethally. <br /><br />Let me clear something up quickly. I'm guessing you are a young lady that loves animals dearly. That's OK, and I think that's fantastic. But let's say we were walking down a street minding our own business, and i didn't know you or anything. If someone was trying to hurt you, they would have to kill me first before they could get to you.<br /><br />The reason that is, is because I value your life and my honor more than my own life. So what do you think of that? How many of your activist friends have that much vested in society that they are willing to fight to the death for it?<br /><br />What you fail to grasp is that it is you and uninformed people like you that are the ones that have no right to criticize what you refuse to understand, or even investigate.<br /><br />Remember that on any given day, we hunters do more for conservation, wildlife, and animals than almost anyone else.<br /><br />Now one last thing. Polish up your writing, and see my friend Brenden at <a href="http://screamingchickenactivism.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Screaming Chicken Activism</a>. He's an activist, but the difference is that he is an intellectual, uses his brain, and thinks before he writes.<br /><br />Best wishes,<br />AlbertAlbert A Raschhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11431765456546701021noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1999508328036467805.post-91901616694456081152009-09-09T13:46:26.486-04:002009-09-09T13:46:26.486-04:00I can't belive this, you say the hunt continou...I can't belive this, you say the hunt continoues, it's really sad, you don't have to kill animals, what would yo said if someone just as sick as you ( i'm sorry but i must say it) who is able to shot a gun do something to your daughter and says ouu it's ok, she didn't suffer It was really fast think about it she would fell the same as what an animal feel when it's haunted and you know it, in my opinion you don't have the right to complain when you talk about rights, humand rights or animal rights.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1999508328036467805.post-89273701358055451032009-09-06T15:00:33.673-04:002009-09-06T15:00:33.673-04:00Anonymous,
I'll take your comments one by one....Anonymous,<br />I'll take your comments one by one.<br /><br />I support,y daughter far more than you might imagine, just not on things that I find morally reprehensible. I don't approve of recreational drug use, excessive alcohol consumption, smoking cigarettes, short skirts on children, girls playing football. There are people who don't see a problem with some or all of the above. That's their choice not mine.<br /><br />I certainly hope she will rebel against me. I raise strong, independent minded children that can defend themselves physically and intellectually. I expect them to argue with passion and logic. BUT THEY HAVE TO BE RESPECTFUL AND RIGHT. If she decides that she wants to be a vegetarian, that's OK by me, it's the BS baggage that HSUS and PeTA try to add to it that is offensive to anyone with a brain.<br /><br />Really, well done you say? So you have <b>NO</b> issue with exposing a child to any of the other heinous crimes in the world? You obviously have no children of your own or suffer from an inability to think about the consequences of your actions.<br /><br />And by the way on any given day I likely do more for animal welfare, conservation, habitat restoration and protection, than you do in a year.<br /><br />Fat filled animal products? In wild game? Get with the science.<br /><br />AlbertAlbert A Raschhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11431765456546701021noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1999508328036467805.post-15202127260763978782009-08-01T11:20:51.734-04:002009-08-01T11:20:51.734-04:00I feel very sorry for your daughter having a fathe...I feel very sorry for your daughter having a father like you, that is unable to support her. <br /><br />My dad was much the same, telling me that hunting was okay, to eat meat, etc.<br /><br />Your daughter, hopefully one day will rebel against you like I did against my own father. I am now vegan, and I campaign with PETA and other animal rights charities.<br /><br />No matter what you tell your daughter, she will grow up with her own views and opinions. You cannot decide those for her. <br /><br />And well done to PETA for exposing the cruelty of the world. Just because you chose to ignore it doesn't mean it does not exist. And you say PETA are abusing children for showing them what happens in the world?<br /><br />It could be argued that feeding your kids a diet of artery clogging, cholesteral and saturated fat filled animal products, that lead to heart disease, cancer and a whole host of other health problems is itself child abuse....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1999508328036467805.post-43989675393527294942009-07-31T18:42:53.915-04:002009-07-31T18:42:53.915-04:00Very interesting topic... indoctrinating kids. Hu...Very interesting topic... indoctrinating kids. Hummmm.... Lets see, "indoctrinating" would be denying information to promote one's own agenda. "Brainwashing" would be an effort to prevent questioning or thought. I can't think of anything that brainwashes and indoctrinates kids more than the way society (and parents) bring up children to "pet the kitty, because it's good to be kind to animals - BUT eat the chicken because it's "normal". <br /><br />Have none of you ever met adults with deep regrets of how the were raised "indoctrinated" to deny that animals (food animals) matter or feel pain? Science has stood it's ground that there's absolutely no difference in the sentience between a dog, pig, cow or deer... or us. We all "feel pain". We are all aware of the world and wish to live.<br /><br />Stealing an animals life is just that. Just because you can point a rifle or a captive bolt gun and pull the trigger does not mean you have a moral "right" to that life. We each only get ONE of these... and it is ours to live. Unless of course some brute who has more "might" takes it from you. <br /><br />If you think this moral dissonance of being kind to some animals while eating others doesn't eventually catch up as an adult - you're sadly in denial. It's one of the most difficult conflicts to resolve as adults. This contradiction permiates our culture and it's time we grew up and faced it square in the eye - like "real men". <br /><br />Point #2 - Videos. They are all over! Thousands on youtube, and millions on the web. If anyone thinks they are going to gag this information and these truths from kids - You're dreaming! <br /><br />You see, kids are a lot smarter than what we think. Nothing about "loving this animal" while "killing/eating this animal" makes sense to them. As it shouldn't. Thousands of kids wanted to become vegetarian/vegan after Charlottes Web and Babe... Are you saying those movies were made by "animal rights extremists" too? Should they be banned because they might get young people thinking things the culture wishes to keep hidden... like the dirty secret that it is?<br /><br />And I'll give you this much... It would be totally understandable if it were a matter of "survival". If there was no other choice in the matter... If for some reason our bodies could not live without flesh and blood foods. But such is not the case... Clearly as the fastest growing dietary choice is towards a plant based diet. It's better for you... Better for the planet... Better for sustainability - and just plain better for us on a spiritual level. But, I'm not here to convert anyone - just laying down the reasons why it's not "necessary" to kill animals. Therefore killing animals is done for "pleasure"... Kids (and adults) aren't buying this line anymore. Find your "pleasure" without harm to others... that seems to be the compassionate choice.<br /><br />Finally, peta. PETA is associated with such a small, tiny little segment of the animal "welfare" issue... peta is NOT an animal "rights" organization. <br /><br />I would think that everyone here... great warriors, soldiers, hunters would know the first effective rule of battle: Know your enemy.Bea Elliotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13981537551810309024noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1999508328036467805.post-84530151368091215882009-07-21T01:48:16.550-04:002009-07-21T01:48:16.550-04:00Mary-Elise I'd just like say that I am sick an...Mary-Elise I'd just like say that I am sick and tired of peta brainwashing people with their misinformation, half truths, and downright lies.<br /><br />Peta doesn't care about animals, peta doesn't care about people, peta only cares about power, control and money.Moderatorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14537343516201245077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1999508328036467805.post-40599464629033222752009-07-20T23:25:04.752-04:002009-07-20T23:25:04.752-04:00PETA is misguided, misinformed and hypocritical, b...PETA is misguided, misinformed and hypocritical, but they have taken stupid to new levels.<br /><br />"Peta tried to sue The California Milk Advisory Board in 2002 over a commercial they made showing "happy cows adds". "A lawsuit filed this week by People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals challenges whether the California dairy industry's award-winning ad campaign featuring "Happy Cows" frolicking in verdant pastures is false advertising." I wonder if the brown cows who are making the choclate milk are just as happy??"albertaboyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11649872181496527681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1999508328036467805.post-47687373874321585902009-07-13T09:50:50.163-04:002009-07-13T09:50:50.163-04:00J.R., let's not forget to mention the lettuce ...J.R., let's not forget to mention the lettuce lady at Michael Jackson's memorial service and more recently asking Oscar Meyer to stop driving around their wienermobile and go vegan after MEYER's death.<br /><br />Trust me - their little "Sympathy" note is far from sincere: <i>"In the wake of the death of Oscar G. Mayer, we are offering those at Kraft Foods our condolences and support during these difficult times. We understand that laying someone to rest is often a time when we try to find the silver lining to an otherwise gray cloud, and we can think of no better way to derive something positive from this death than by burying the Wienermobile along with Mr. Mayer."</i><br /><br />Oh, let's not forget the posters who are CELEBRATING someone's death after being gored by a bull. (Trust me, I so wish I was making this up, but I'm not). I agree the running of the bulls is dumb (because even those who don't support it get hurt), but still - it is absolutely VILE to celebrate the person's death because you disagree with the practice. (frankly too - it puts PETA at the same level as the ones they despise).<br /><br />Really? - touting advocacy during people's DEATHS? It's disgusting. <br /><br />****************<br /><br />My recent favorite one is the lettuce ladies passing out free veggieburgers at a Consumers Energy building in Grand Rapids, Michigan. (story, Lettuce Ladies Pay Your Power Bill.) <br /><br />They're also giving a coupon for $10 people's energy bill. I have serious questions as if these coupons are in fact valid or if they're bantering it about to try and get people to go vegan. They do not verify if these coupons are legit or not - they don't tout where they got them from (i.e. Consumer Energy). Not all energy plants or businesses will accept a coupon from any group that is not theirs - nor do they have to accept them even if they initially gave permission. <br /><br />As I've said, I support some of their ideas, such as not killing an animal just for their fur, but when they pull things like this, they lose credibility. They think bad news is better than no news - I beg to disagree.Melnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1999508328036467805.post-76341043488247243242009-07-13T03:20:32.596-04:002009-07-13T03:20:32.596-04:00Good stuff fellows,
and thanks for stopping by JR ...Good stuff fellows,<br />and thanks for stopping by JR I'll be sure to check it out.<br /><br />ALbertAlbert A Raschhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11431765456546701021noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1999508328036467805.post-14938952358458671732009-07-11T19:23:04.909-04:002009-07-11T19:23:04.909-04:00Great points. I hate the fact that PeTA spreads li...Great points. I hate the fact that PeTA spreads lies to influence children. That had a billboard that said feeding kids meat is child abuse, and tried to capitalize on the abortion doctor who was shot by encouraging both pro-life and pro-choice constituents to go vegan. If you want the links I'll try and find them for you. Also you might want to drop by PeTAsucks.com, yuou can get more info on these people.J.R.https://www.blogger.com/profile/10880156625316812693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1999508328036467805.post-66970211009214007802009-07-09T19:12:33.370-04:002009-07-09T19:12:33.370-04:00One other thing I want to mention - I feel that a ...One other thing I want to mention - I feel that a group that uses people's deaths, this case Jackson and Meyer, to tout their views on vegetarianism (even feigning sympathy to Meyer), earns its disdain. You would NEVER see me use PETA's founder's death to tout my views. <br /><br />With that in mind, Albert, I wish you the best in your efforts to give both sides of the story in order to let people choose for themselves. I respect vegans and even PETA members (in spite of my views here); however, I ask that they respect yours, mine and others'melnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1999508328036467805.post-57899349417126610382009-07-08T16:26:20.142-04:002009-07-08T16:26:20.142-04:00I can answer that Albert - posts that are contrary...I can answer that Albert - posts that are contrary to PETA's views on their site. ;)<br /><br />(And, if you need to, I can verify who I am. I might not blog on this board, but I am willing to do that if you so choose).melnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1999508328036467805.post-88001352671269052662009-07-08T13:30:00.668-04:002009-07-08T13:30:00.668-04:00Unless of course it's Mary-Elise Turner McNaug...Unless of course it's Mary-Elise Turner McNaught or Mary Elise Gabbard; I could be wrong but they're both animal rights activists!<br /><br />Is there nothing you can't find on the internet? Besides Dave Bell?<br /><br />AlbertAlbert A Raschhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11431765456546701021noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1999508328036467805.post-73943835578294120922009-07-08T13:19:17.200-04:002009-07-08T13:19:17.200-04:00Whoops,
I spoke too soon Mary-Elise's profile...Whoops,<br /><br />I spoke too soon Mary-Elise's profile is on private, so there is no way to know what her blog is or her website. It appears that it was just a pseudonym...<br /><br />Now I can't respond to her on her own blog.<br /><br />It is never a two way street with them. Well that's not true Brendan is alright over at <a href="http://screamingchickenactivism.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Screaming Chicken Activism</a>.<br /><br />AlbertAlbert A Raschhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11431765456546701021noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1999508328036467805.post-90822022940648501742009-07-08T13:16:25.719-04:002009-07-08T13:16:25.719-04:00Dang it!
Where was for this one! Oh yeah, huntin...Dang it!<br /><br />Where was for this one! Oh yeah, hunting down cyber-terrorists!<br /><br />Point of fact. Bull fighting is a one on one affair. The running of the bulls has as much to do with bull fighting as as the Rose Bowl has to do with a quarterbacks ability.<br /><br />Mary-Elise,<br /><br />Thanks for stopping by, and by golly thanks for at least a name to link to! If you notice, your are the only one with a bit of gumption on your side so far. You'll notice that all your buddies are either anonymous and spouting out shameful lies, using pseudonyms and being libelous, or posting elsewhere and writing spurious commentaries!<br /><br />So forgive me if you think I'm a little rough with you and your friends.<br /><br />Now I don't and neither does anyone else here disagree with your stand on animal cruelty. No one that has commented here would condone the stripping of fur off of a still living animal.<br /><br />Now that we agree on that, do you think that a twelve year old when invited by friends to watch something as horrific as what I observed, is sufficiently mature to determine what the implications of what she observed are? No I didn't think you did either.<br /><br />Anyway I've been very busy chasing bad people the last couple of days, and I am in no shape to really tear your arguments apart in a constructive and respectful manner.<br /><br />You need to go to my friend Brendan's blog. He is an animal liberationist and has good manners and a great intellect. <a href="http://screamingchickenactivism.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Screaming Chicken Activism</a>. I think he is wrong, but he is a gentleman and a scholar.<br /><br />Best Regards,<br />AlbertAlbert A Raschhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11431765456546701021noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1999508328036467805.post-18542949953546675282009-07-07T19:05:34.377-04:002009-07-07T19:05:34.377-04:00Additionally, I don't hate everything you guys...Additionally, I don't hate everything you guys do - far from it. As I posted above in an earlier post, I deplore anyone who kills an animal just for their furs or musk glands or the head/antlers. That's a waste of an animal - if you're going hunt, eat what you can of it or sell it to a meat processor. <br /><br />I also am not fond of the bullfighting because it is drawn out and frankly dangerous for everyone involved - and even spectators.<br /><br />And, frankly, I'm not heartless. I've always been someone who has had respect for animals from cradle to grave. The extreme cruelty cases, such as the turkey one PETA recently mentioned, irks me too. <br /><br />That said, they're a rare instance - most places I know follow the true protocol for slaughtering an animal. PETA, however, will never concede that not all slaughterhouses are like the few they do catch doing a true crime.<br /><br />And, I know where my food comes from and am always thankful for its sacrifice. The same holds true for those animals that many of our vaccines were tested on - they've helped people - including you and I (unless you didn't get a polio, flu - made from eggs - or other vaccinations) which means they served a much greater purpose than any of us can ever thank them for.<br /><br />One can respect animals and still be an omnivore. That's what I see when I read Albert's blog here - if he didn't, he wouldn't be so mad at you using your tactics (i.e. the comic) on his daughterMelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1999508328036467805.post-24925157099818627822009-07-07T19:05:12.268-04:002009-07-07T19:05:12.268-04:00Mary-Elise,
I'm sorry, but I must disagree wi...Mary-Elise,<br /><br />I'm sorry, but I must disagree with you. PETA's stance is that we should eat a vegetarian diet. That means no animal products, honey, fish, etc. Further, they condemn the killing of chickens or any other animal for meet.<br /><br />Controlled atmosphere killing is - no matter how you slice it or dice it or try to tout it, is still MURDER according to PETA's members and standards. Therefore, advocating the killing of chickens through controlled atmosphere killing, is contrary to your viewpoints, or more succinctly, hypocritical. You are counter-productive in your protests - period.<br /><br />And, I'm not spewing "crap" (pardon me Albert), even a 3-year-old would be able to notice the glaring contradictions in views your group is touting with this particular advocacy.<br /><br />Yes, people can verify you're misinformed too. I have read that you claim milk is pus due to "Somatic Cells," however, according to biology-online.org, "The word “somatic” is derived from the Greek word soma, meaning “body”. Hence, all body cells of an organism – apart from the sperm and egg cells, the cells from which they arise (gametocytes) and undifferentiated stem cells – are somatic cells."<br /><br />Or in layman's terms, going by PETA's definition, we are all made out of pus save our sperm and eggs.<br /><br />"High and mighty... long hard look in the mirror first"? - My dear, read your own post. PETA's blog does just that - they refuse to post up any conflicting information, such as the post above about somatic cells (which you can research online for yourself), if it doesn't fit your views.<br /><br />Well, I take that back. They'll post up stuff to make omnivores look like morons to fit the supposed fact that "vegans have a higher IQ." That's just as incorrect as saying vegans will live longer than omnivores (note, omnivores eat both plant and animals - true carnivores only eat meat). You can be vegan and die at 30 or be an omnivore and live to be 100. Too many factors come into play to claim that vegans will in fact live longer.<br /><br />You need to take a long, hard look in the mirror yourself when you see the protests you do. Examples of extreme is:<br /><br />* Parading around half nude during the running of the bulls (public indecency is a misdemeanor most states). This goes double with the running of the nudes.<br /><br />* Condoning defacing a license plate's motto because it has "America's Dairy Land" (a misdemeanor - I got a warning myself for the edge of my home state's motto being "obscured" - you could still clearly read it). <br /><br />BTW, if by chance Wisconsin does allow "America's Cow Hell" to be added, be ready to pay extra for a vanity plate - they do that with all non-standard plates, no bias toward any.<br /><br />* Calling people murderers and comparing us to Hitler/Nazis because we eat meat. <br /><br />* Demanding that not only Vick get a mental exam before he goes back to the NFL, condemning him anyway that he'll never change when you simply do not know. And not only that, you only bash him when there were many perpetrators in the crime.<br /><br />* creating comics that have scary photos of dads carving up fish or moms tearing off pelts from animals for fur to CHILDREN. I have in fact seen the original comic and yes - it is scary (even from an adults' standards) and why I can understand Albert here being peeved at your group.<br /><br />* Flygate - PETA's site clearly said that PETA was not going to comment on it, BUT the media asked you so you speak out and then go on about sending him a "humane fly catcher." Not only are flies more harmful than good insects, that whole instance had some PETA members seriously question if they wanted to remain a member of the group - they found it to be THAT asinine.Melnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1999508328036467805.post-33456096659600659112009-07-07T12:34:07.631-04:002009-07-07T12:34:07.631-04:00Mel,
PETA does NOT advocate the killing of chicke...Mel,<br /><br />PETA does NOT advocate the killing of chickens; they simply would like for those chickens who have to die to satisfy heartless meat-eaters like you to have as humane a death as possible. Get your facts straight before posting a bunch of crap.<br /><br />Oh, and another thing - I am SICK AND TIRED of reading all these stupid comments about how PETA is "brainwashing" and "misinforming" people. It's not like they've stuck a gun to someone's head and "made" them watch their videos. (Oh, I forgot - the gun thing would be y'all's thing, anyway.) In addition, it's not like they pull claims out of their butts - they invest a lot of time and energy into conducting investigations into animal cruelty, so their "claims" are backed by hard facts and real-life video footage.<br /><br />The problem with ignorant haters like the ones who've posted on here is that you all act so high-and-mighty, that you turn into that which you rail against, in the first place. You b*tch and whine about animal activists and how "extreme" some of them are, but what you really need to do is take a long, hard look in the mirror first.<br /><br />And let me just add that I have no problem with other people's opinions - just make sure that they're based on fact, not your own misguided way of thinking.<br /><br />~Mary-Elise (and yes, that is my real name - I'm not afraid to express myself and therefore, I don't need to hide behind some "anonymous" or made-up label)Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10659380793913878252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1999508328036467805.post-76093367126892414012009-07-03T16:31:11.498-04:002009-07-03T16:31:11.498-04:00All I can add to that is that it was entertaining....All I can add to that is that it was entertaining. Keep up the good work Albert!Matthttp://www.brightideablog.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1999508328036467805.post-1204976959157284792009-07-03T01:45:01.251-04:002009-07-03T01:45:01.251-04:00Mel,
Thanks again for adding to the conversation!...Mel,<br /><br />Thanks again for adding to the conversation!<br />AlbertAlbert A Raschhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11431765456546701021noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1999508328036467805.post-56749348708268029122009-07-02T19:35:02.861-04:002009-07-02T19:35:02.861-04:00Albert,
I want to say that your comments are well...Albert,<br /><br />I want to say that your comments are well thought out and diplomatic. You handled the PETA comments quite well.<br /><br />Also, I like the fact you respect people's opinions enough that you will keep their opinions on your blog. I know for a fact that PETA does not if it does not cater to their whims. Most comments I make that say that PCRM.org is similar to PETA based on their beliefs, that say that they are advocating their people to commit misdemeanors (long story), or counter that a vegan diet does not mean you'll always be thin, it's not posted up. <br /><br />One of my favorites is calling them out on supporting Controlled Atmosphere Kiling of Chickens as "humane" yet are touting a vegan diet. Two things wrong with this - a. Anoxia/hypoxia is NOT painless (at least until you pass out) and b. they are advocating the killing of chickens when they support this, which is contrary to their claims.<br /><br />The other favorite is saying Somatic cells are pus and we have pus in milk. Thing is, the definition of Somatic cells is all body cells save the reproductive two. Therefore, we are all pus (OK, that's a new one).<br /><br />I too have received "information" about programs and such to try and counter my beliefs, but the links they use do not IMHO validate their arguments because they're usually not neutral.<br /><br />While I do not hunt, I do respect hunters' rights to go out hunting. The only thing I do deplore are those hunters who kill just for the head and antlers. That's a waste of an animal, especially when there are businesses that will process deer meat and even buy it from the hunter. I am the same way with any animal that the meat is not used for food, such as fox, mink, ermine, etc.<br /><br />Definitely keep an eye out on the PETA activists because while they have done the occasional good thing on true cruelty to animals, they don't need to be indoctrinating young and impressionable people with misinformation. While I'll admit I'm not perfect (I did mix up viruses and bacteria) I see it too many times with this group.melnoreply@blogger.com